Should we keep pigeons off Birdtables

Below is a reply I have received to an article about how to keep Pigeons off birdtables.  It is very sensible –

You need to judge your garden situation. Each bird needs to be catered for in different ways.

I find that if you scatter bird food or scraps round your garden not just on or in the feeders the pigeons will happily feed from the ground.

We have a large community of birds in our garden from blue tits, coal tits, great tits, sparrows, chaffinches, greenfinches, doves, pigeons and also the shy nuthatch, wren, goldcrest, black cap, woodpecker, bullfinch etc. and because of this we have never had a problem.

Personally I like to watch our fat pigeon strutting around the garden, he has a very distinct character and is humourous in his manner.

If you find ways to accomadate all of the birds in your garden whether or not you think they are vermin then a happy community can and will build up.

Too many cages makes for wary birds and the freer the feeding area the better. I also find if you situate your feeders amongst bushes, surround them with greenery then there is more cover for these wary creatures. I could go on forever but I’ll stop here, hope this helps.

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Thank you Kat for replying. I think you are right that every birds needs to be catered for in different ways.

Wow. You do have a lot of birds come to your garden don’t you.  You must be like me and get through a lot of bird food. 

It may seem strange, but I also find pigeons amusing as they strutt about, but it is when they take all the bird food that it becomes a problem.  I still get pigeons taking food off the ground – but they eat so much!

I also really like to see birds flitting free to the bird food.  It is really amusing and interesting to see the different birds feeding together (I mean the small garden birds) and I myself do use an old garden bush as a place to put bird food.  I also hang bird feeders from branches.

So it seems like we have a lot in common!  Maybe the only thing we don’t have in common is the number of pigeons who come to our gardens.

Strangely enough we have also been getting rooks and crows in our garden.  They usually don’t come this time of year. 

When I started bird feeding I had one birdtable.  That was a long time ago. But I now, like you, use different parts of the garden to put bird food out.  I know friends who have one birdtable and they get loads of birds feeding – which is great.

I sometimes wonder if it’s because I live in the countryside that I’m getting so many garden birds.  Will have to ask Chris Packham or Bill Oddie!

I also realise you don’t need a garden to put birdfood out.  I’ve seen fat balls hanging from a town car park, and bird food scattered near a tree in a town.  I’ve also seen wall fitted bird tables.  I’d love to hear from anyone who has a window feeder.  I tried one, but it did not attract any birds.

I suppose different areas, different gardens will have a different variety of birds and so birdfeeding will be different in each garden.  Maybe that’s what makes it so interesting.

Thanks for replying and getting in contact. It is really good to hear other people’s views.  That is what I enjoy about Bird Table News – getting views, advice and ‘meeting’ people who also like bird feeding.  Great to hear from you – please do send more and ‘go on’ a little more if you have time. 

THIS IS THE LINK TO THE ARTICLE ABOUT HOW TO KEEP PIGEONS OFF BIRD TABLES

2 thoughts on “Should we keep pigeons off Birdtables

  1. Toni Hyne

    I have recently bought an RSPB Classic birdtable which has very wide open sides. My previous one which rotted had 4 arched openings. I have a beech hedge adjacent to the table which is home to dozens of sparrows and dunnocks which used to frequent my table. Sometimes there would be dozens of them along the edges and on the table. I got doves feeding on the ground and one dove could fit uncomfortably on the table but didn’t deter the smaller birds. I also got robins & chaffinches. The new table had a black plastic removable tray and I knew it would be a while before the sparrows would be brave enough to use it. I had to have a new feeding tray put on my old feeder some years ago and it had been varnished and I think the smell put them off and I know they are very cautious and suspicious and it was about five days before the sparrows would use it. However, what happened with the new table was that the doves found a way to drop down from the ridged roof which they could sit on and turn around in the air and get on the table and eventually the table would have a half dozen doves and sometimes a pigeon on it. So the sparrows didn’t even try to use it. In about 5 weeks I saw a sparrow about three times on the table and almost instantly doves would come and it would disappear. The doves would be waiting on the roofs of adjacent houses in the morning and as soon as they saw me put on the food they would descend. I discussed the problem with the RSPB and have stopped feeding the birds altogether for the time being to get rid of the doves but I know they are out there and the pigeons. I see them on my neighbours’ bird table. I thought I would try to guard the table on some way with either wooden trellis cut to size (like a curtain) hanging on hooks from the roof which I could lift up like on a hinge and put seed on the table and remove the tray for cleaning; or perhaps make panels or a cage with square plastic covered fencing. I am really sad as I have been feeding this sparrow population for very many years and used to get such a lot of joy from them. I’ve read the various comments on pigeon proofing my table like the canes but I’m not convinced that would keep the doves out. I did try bracing some short canes from the inside of the roof to the opposite side of the bottom of the table. I put four crossing one another but the doves still got on the table and either knocked the canes off or just managed to squeeze in and eat. I’m desperate for a solution. Does anyone have any really practical and tested ideas. I did write the RSPB but didn’t get any very helpful feedback. Help.

  2. Trish Post author

    Thanks for getting in touch. I have had a struggle with large birds pinching the food for years now.
    One way I have found is to put garden canes around the birdtable. Your problem is that the birds come down from the roof, but if they cannot balance because canes are there it may work. The smaller birds can get through the canes, but the larges ones cannot. Here is a link to an article. http://birdtablenews.com/2009/02/how-to-keep-pigeons-off-a-bird-table/
    At the bottom of the article is a photo of the canes round my birdtable. They do get blown about a bit, but I’ve found this is the best way. It allows blackbirds and thrushes to get in. One other way is to just use caged bird feeders
    For years I’ve had pigeons, rooks and crows descend when I put bird food out. We just can’t afford it can we?
    Making a cage with square plastic covered fencing is a good idea.
    I can imagine that you feel really sad, especially as you have been feeding this sparrow population for very many years

    I don’t think it’s any good you waiting until the doves go away. A practical solution is needed.
    Could you buy a hanging feeder and put it in the hedge. I have hanging feeders and birds soon get the hang of them.
    Here is another link showing a ground feeder that has a cage round it. It also shows my canes round the bird table

    http://birdtablenews.com/2009/07/keeping-pigeons-away-from-bird-tables/

    Here are some more ideas from readers –
    I would first of all like to thank Trish for her inspiration.

    I cannot stand grey pigeons, as they finish enough food to feed 4 or 5 of the smaller birds in my garden. So through searching for advice on how to keep pigeons away from the bird table I stumbled upon Trish’s idea of placing canes around the table.

    I thought I might take this a step further and incorporate the canes into the table itself creating a more aesthetically pleasing table. I ended up purchasing a table along with a strip of floor edging to act as my canes.
    Instead of boring you with the details of how I made the table pigeon proof, I thought I might post pictures up instead (as soon as I know how) which are self-explanatory.

    The pigeons have tried to enter the ‘house’ but being too big they couldn’t balance on any part of the table apart from the roof.

    All other birds however have been enjoying the treats I have put out for them which in previous days would have been finished by the pigeons before the smaller birds even got a taste. This has all been happening while the pigeons sit on the fence and wonder how they are going to enter, but all their attempts have failed!
    Thanks Trish!
    (Pics up soon!)

    AND HERE IS MY REPLY

    Brilliant idea to put the canes on the birdtable itself. I would never have thought of that in a million years.

    I’m really looking forward to seeing the photographs

    It is true that pigeons can eat so much bird food which would feed 5 or 6 small birds. It is also true that this costs money that I cannot afford. So I have had lots of enjoyment seeing smaller birds on the birdtable and inside the ring of canes.

    What a lovely comment. It’s wonderful how practical ideas can be spread by the Internet.

    Toni here is another idea

    April 2010 – Another way to help small birds from Arlene

    My bird table has a roof and has been enclosed by my husband on three sides by the largest plastic mesh I could find~ the open side nearest the lounge window.

    It took awhile for them to get used to it but they hop through as though it wasn’t there now.
    All the little birds hop through the mesh or through the side bits under the roof and the bigger birds such as Blackbirds come round the back.

    Let me know what you think

    Trisha

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